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ninety6tearsTook me forever to get to writing this; spoilers ahead!
Goddamn, okay, to start with: I had a really good time at this movie, and it didn't make me angry, and at the moment I feel like that's all I can say. I feel like I need to preface this with a reminder that I had a positively shockingly good time at the last Star Trek movie, it made my entire summer and made for what is still kind of my big pet home fandom or whatever, so basically, having to wait several years for the next installment of that thing pretty much guaranteed that every possible way in which they could do it would be so inflated and tread-over in my mind that it was kind of impossible for me to just experience the damn thing. But I just know there was some stuff in this movie that felt surreal to actually see on the screen because of how much I had been like "Can't they just do something like this," which overall makes me feel that I kinda loved this movie, even if it did not achieve the nearly impossible of making me love it as much as the (imperfect but fucking awesome) ST XI. Know what I'm saying?
- I will get this out of the way: I like Cumberbatch. And I love Khan, and I actually was never opposed to the basic idea of somehow bringing back the character. But never the twain should have met. Putting aside the racial issues - not because they're not significant but because you can hear about that just about anywhere else - I don't think it was a great casting decision at all. Dude would have been a brilliant villain if they weren't claiming he was Khan. It's called The Wrath of Khan, not the Stoic Calculation of Khan. Yes, Khan could be quite meditative but his manipulation was usually more like, suave, and he was just more of a fun rock star baddie until he was killing everything you love and that's what made him scary. I enjoyed how well they set him up as a foil to Kirk, but something was just missing here that made it entirely necessary for it to be that character. In WoK, what makes Khan's return so formidable is that he already has a history with Kirk, Kirk once made a mistake that fucked him over pretty badly, etc.; in "Space Seed" he was still pretty cool and memorable in his own right, but without that whole "Ah, we meet again," and without the fun of Khan having his cronies around, there just wasn't anything that made me feel "Oh, yes, we have returned to this character." If there had been some way to make the other reality resonate more with what was going on, that might have worked, but that would of course be pandering too heavily to the actual Trekkies, so the Trekkies are instead expected to get excited over this hollow four-letter-word claiming to be the return of an iconic character. *shrug*
- On the other hand, I was really happy they did the one thing I kept worrying they wouldn't be able to do if they brought in Khan, which was BRING IN SPOCK PRIME \o/ Cause I've been saying forever: "Okay, but wouldn't the older Spock wanna be like, LAY THAT FUCKER DOWN IMMEDIATELY, if he heard about Khan running around again?" And they basically did that, they did the thing, and I am happy. It was kind of a random thing, because Spock can't be asking his counterpart for help all the time, but if felt right to me that this would be kind of the one tip-off that Spock would give them if he had a kind of no-intervention policy.
- Like many others I had speculated going in that they would parallel Spock's death here (I never even saw the trailer that had the hands on the glass, but then there is Tumblr), and that it would probably be Kirk dying this time around. Unfortunately the connection felt more like remake than remix to me. Too many repeated lines, too many improbably similar details; I know Star Trek constantly suggests that universes have a way of replicating themselves in parallels, but eh. In many ways I think the death scene was maybe perfectly poignant to a lot of the non-Trek-initiated but a little harder to emotionally stomach for the longtime fans. I didn't hate the scene and I didn't feel nothing from it, but it could have been more...I don't know. Subtle.
- But OKAY, no more whining (okay, almost no more whining) because this film was overall SO GREAT WITH THE CREW, and that is really the most important thing to me. Am I gonna talk about almost every single character/relationship? Let's do this.
You know, some people might think it is totally ridiculous to be having all this anxiety about TEH FANFIC when I'm seeing a movie but the thing is, when a very active fandom sprawls out of a two-hour movie, even in a very good character-driven movie there are going to be a lot of holes that need to be filled in, especially in one where you have a bunch of characters who are not yet a crew and are supposed to become a crew and there isn't exactly one exact way to make that work. And it's not just about the actual fic but the way you've gotten used to the potential of these characters going in one direction or the other. And the thing is, plot-wise, some of my ideas got jossed, but the tone of certain relationships actually weren't, and that was a huge point of flailing for me.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO START WITH KIRK & SPOCK BECAUSE:
MY BABIES, MY PRECIOUS BABIES. EXCUSE ME WHILE I SMUGLY DECLARE THAT KIRK AND UHURA ARE FRIENDS.
I'm a huge K/U shipper and if you don't already know that I think you're probably new here? But just in the platonic realm, you don't know how many times I have had to throw my hands up at people assuming this relationship was always going to be all bickery and that Uhura without-a-doubt hates Jim (I think even for their academy-era relationship, "hate" is too strong a word). That idea was something I always found irritating because it's like, oh, Kirk and Spock can argue for half of a movie and the audience just knows it will work eventually because they're supposed to be a team, but let's overlook that Uhura and Kirk always had this very trusting sorta huggy dynamic in TOS and reduce Uhura to some demonstration of how clumsy Jim can be with the ladies (not that these writers are not guilty of reducing women to punchlines, but more on that later). Now it's not so much that Kirk either earns total lust or total adversity from every woman he meets with no space in-between but that Uhura is just a difficult woman to impress and it took some time for him to earn her respect.
But just OH MY GOD. ALL THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM WERE MORE THAN I EVER WOULD HAVE HOPED FOR? The talk on the turbolift about Spock and her sensing their mutual frustrations about him; Jim obviously being really worried that one of the Klingons was about to fuck her up when they sent her to talk to them; Nyota having Jim's back during the shoot-out (!!!); OMFG, did she really do that little relieved/comforting lean on Jim's shoulder when they thought Marcus and McCoy were about to get blown up (!!!!!!!!!)? That last bit was pretty much the part where it started to feel surreal how subtly multi-dimensional they had made this relationship because it was almost too good to be true. Like I kinda said I was totally dreading going into this movie and feeling like a lot of interactions I have written in fic between these characters, while having only a few scenes to go on, would be something people would no longer be able to buy, but it's like...I even feel like a few more people (a few, you know, I'm being optimistic here) are going to be able to imagine that just maybe over some time she could have been interested in Kirk romantically if Spock was out of the picture (and especially if she were separated from everyone she's ever known with the exception of him and two other people, not that I'm thinking about a specific fic or anything), and I didn't even ask for that, I hadn't bothered hoping for that. It was Christmas in May.
(photobucket, what did you do to my gifs. That used to be a pretty gif.)
But let's not forget I love all three of these badasses and they did sooo right by my OT3 it almost feels fanon-inspired. I'm still unable to get excited about Spock/Uhura on their own and I don't think I ever will, but I was so happy they didn't just get lazy with that relationship and make it look like it's easy for these two people to be together. The lack of professionalism didn't bother me because let's face it, the writers DGAF and it's their fault if the characters wanna talk about their feelings a little too much while on a mission, or date each other in the first place when that's arguably a bad idea, etc. But I did feel like in the first sequence when Spock's life was in danger that Uhura managed to be entirely professional while crying and freaking out and, IDK, that felt perfect to me. And just...I have so many feelings about how there is a bit of a real tandem to both Spock and Uhura reacting to Jim dying, and how on the bridge the two of them just share this look and when she says, "Go get him," the tone has shifted from "Be careful down there, honey" to more like "HE GOT JIM KILLED. COME BACK WITH YOUR SHIELD OR ON IT." In many ways the three of them were treated as the new triumvirate, and I feel like that should piss me off, but it just doesn't. I would have liked a little more Bones but, you know, I just want more everybody, I want an entire TV show that is like this but alas, it cannot happen.
I ended up liking how they handled Kirk & Spock more upon reflection than I did when I saw it; I think it's because as I was watching it I kinda felt like they weren't quite selling it enough but later on I realized that everything kinda did make perfect sense for a developing relationship where both of them are a little too proud to be very close to referring to each other as besties. I mean, where TOS starts, Kirk is already willing to tell the world that Spock is one of his most trusted friends, but Spock isn't so open about that being mutual, so I realized it was kind of adorable to suggest that a little earlier in such a relationship there could be a point where, hey, Jim isn't eager to pour his heart out about how much he cares about a dude who has no idea how to respond to "Hey, I'm gonna miss you." In TOS Spock is more ashamed of his emotions towards Kirk; here he's more confused about how to handle them, so it's just this pile of awkward that they don't talk about so the pile of friendship just keeps getting bigger and bigger until they do stupid shit for each other and...yeah. It's true that they haven't exactly "earned" their Kirk-and-Spockness enough for the impact of one of them dying to feel like any kind of fitting homage to WoK, but at the same time, these guys have both lost a whole lot, and they've both been told that they're supposed to have this epic friendship that will define them both, and I think for Spock to not only have to give up that relationship but the possibility of what it's supposed to be could seriously give him a case of the agonizing oh-hell-no's, especially as he seems to be realizing in that moment that he wants this brotherhood and depends on it even though he's been suppressing too much to really think hard about it before.
- And speaking of the bros who always do stupid shit for each other: I cannot tell you how much I loved the little fact that Kirk got in some serious trouble at the beginning. It's just that in Star Trek, particularly with Kirk and Spock, it seems like you get a whole LOT of people putting the entire crew on the line to try to save one person, and they almost NEVER GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT. (On that note I didn't see why the prime directive was treated like such a BFD, specifically in that context, because it seemed clear to me that putting the crew in danger was a much bigger fuck-up than, you know, trying to save a planet.) And even though Jim is Jim and is still insisting later in the movie that it was the right thing because it saved Spock's life, the writing puts in both the logos and pathos and doesn't really forcefully resolve which way of looking at it is the right way. And it's all the more well-handled that they don't just have some random admiral who could come off as the bad guy chewing him out but somebody we actually relate to. Oh god...
- You guys, I was so so so excited that they brought Pike back; he was seriously one of my favorite characters in XI (LOL, I mean, who out of the main players hasn't been one of my favorite characters at one point? but I digress). And when it came up as this very paternal thing between him and Jim (Did anyone else notice he sternly called him "James" at some point? Hee) I was pleasantly surprised. To me the continuation of their relationship always felt like it was a great idea but something that I would only ever get in fanfic, and I got behind the idea of it way more when I was writing my last big bang, and then they totally spun it back that way and I was ecstatic and then they FUCKING TORE MY HEART OUT AAAAAAHGGHGHGHGG.
- I still wish they'd acknowledge Winona, though.
- SCOTTY <3 With how a lot of people complained that Scotty was just more Simon Pegg than anything else in the first movie, the fact that they could make him this really funny guy who may not seem like he takes anything besides his ship seriously until he shows that he has this strong core of integrity to what he knows is right and wrong...I adored that, and it did make me feel a little more like he is the character. I loved how his confrontation with Jim ended up just veering abruptly into Jim being like "UGH OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HATE THIS, OF COURSE I ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION, DAMMIT, UGH." Also, I was pretty happy Keenser is still around :) (LOL, apparently they don't think that in America we know that "wee" means "small." That's not exactly super-obscure Scottish slang from where I'm standing, but it was improvised by Pegg and JJ made him add the line explaining what it meant. I'm okay with that because the delivery of it was kind of charming.)
And hey, speaking of that whole part of the plot, like many others I was pleased with how there was this fluid implication of how the destruction of Vulcan has changed a lot of things and made Starfleet more militant. I'm not happy that that's the way it is, but it's great to have characters acknowledging it in the same way the Trekkies do, by saying that's not what Starfleet is supposed to be about.
- Ugh, but did they really have to use Chapel, a significantly recurring character from the original series, to make an unfunny "LOL Kirk's philandering" joke. I found it particularly grating that he would supposedly not even remember her, even if the implication is that she left pretty fast. On the other hand, it creates an amusing accidental continuity with all the fics where Bones seems to have set down some kind of "Jim, please don't screw my medical crew" policy, and now I kind of really want one where the whole thing with Chapel is something Bones has been nursing a grudge over for a while.
- So, Carol Marcus. It's interesting and surprising that they would bring in someone who was canonically involved with Kirk but only vaguely hint at any romantic tension between them (though at the same time, pretty much every kiss gets into the trailers these days, so I shouldn't have been surprised there wasn't one between them). And I don't know, we didn't get to know her all that well, but I feel like I liked her? And I don't mind the idea of her and Jim possibly getting together in a next movie, but I found myself doing it wrong and kinda shipping her with Bones...Tell me I'm not alone in this.
Oh, and on a final positive note, the action/space porn was beautiful. I had kind of forgotten how astonishing the effects were the first time I saw Star Trek XI and that I'd be getting more of that.
Must see again. *nods*
Goddamn, okay, to start with: I had a really good time at this movie, and it didn't make me angry, and at the moment I feel like that's all I can say. I feel like I need to preface this with a reminder that I had a positively shockingly good time at the last Star Trek movie, it made my entire summer and made for what is still kind of my big pet home fandom or whatever, so basically, having to wait several years for the next installment of that thing pretty much guaranteed that every possible way in which they could do it would be so inflated and tread-over in my mind that it was kind of impossible for me to just experience the damn thing. But I just know there was some stuff in this movie that felt surreal to actually see on the screen because of how much I had been like "Can't they just do something like this," which overall makes me feel that I kinda loved this movie, even if it did not achieve the nearly impossible of making me love it as much as the (imperfect but fucking awesome) ST XI. Know what I'm saying?
- I will get this out of the way: I like Cumberbatch. And I love Khan, and I actually was never opposed to the basic idea of somehow bringing back the character. But never the twain should have met. Putting aside the racial issues - not because they're not significant but because you can hear about that just about anywhere else - I don't think it was a great casting decision at all. Dude would have been a brilliant villain if they weren't claiming he was Khan. It's called The Wrath of Khan, not the Stoic Calculation of Khan. Yes, Khan could be quite meditative but his manipulation was usually more like, suave, and he was just more of a fun rock star baddie until he was killing everything you love and that's what made him scary. I enjoyed how well they set him up as a foil to Kirk, but something was just missing here that made it entirely necessary for it to be that character. In WoK, what makes Khan's return so formidable is that he already has a history with Kirk, Kirk once made a mistake that fucked him over pretty badly, etc.; in "Space Seed" he was still pretty cool and memorable in his own right, but without that whole "Ah, we meet again," and without the fun of Khan having his cronies around, there just wasn't anything that made me feel "Oh, yes, we have returned to this character." If there had been some way to make the other reality resonate more with what was going on, that might have worked, but that would of course be pandering too heavily to the actual Trekkies, so the Trekkies are instead expected to get excited over this hollow four-letter-word claiming to be the return of an iconic character. *shrug*
- On the other hand, I was really happy they did the one thing I kept worrying they wouldn't be able to do if they brought in Khan, which was BRING IN SPOCK PRIME \o/ Cause I've been saying forever: "Okay, but wouldn't the older Spock wanna be like, LAY THAT FUCKER DOWN IMMEDIATELY, if he heard about Khan running around again?" And they basically did that, they did the thing, and I am happy. It was kind of a random thing, because Spock can't be asking his counterpart for help all the time, but if felt right to me that this would be kind of the one tip-off that Spock would give them if he had a kind of no-intervention policy.
- Like many others I had speculated going in that they would parallel Spock's death here (I never even saw the trailer that had the hands on the glass, but then there is Tumblr), and that it would probably be Kirk dying this time around. Unfortunately the connection felt more like remake than remix to me. Too many repeated lines, too many improbably similar details; I know Star Trek constantly suggests that universes have a way of replicating themselves in parallels, but eh. In many ways I think the death scene was maybe perfectly poignant to a lot of the non-Trek-initiated but a little harder to emotionally stomach for the longtime fans. I didn't hate the scene and I didn't feel nothing from it, but it could have been more...I don't know. Subtle.
- But OKAY, no more whining (okay, almost no more whining) because this film was overall SO GREAT WITH THE CREW, and that is really the most important thing to me. Am I gonna talk about almost every single character/relationship? Let's do this.
You know, some people might think it is totally ridiculous to be having all this anxiety about TEH FANFIC when I'm seeing a movie but the thing is, when a very active fandom sprawls out of a two-hour movie, even in a very good character-driven movie there are going to be a lot of holes that need to be filled in, especially in one where you have a bunch of characters who are not yet a crew and are supposed to become a crew and there isn't exactly one exact way to make that work. And it's not just about the actual fic but the way you've gotten used to the potential of these characters going in one direction or the other. And the thing is, plot-wise, some of my ideas got jossed, but the tone of certain relationships actually weren't, and that was a huge point of flailing for me.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO START WITH KIRK & SPOCK BECAUSE:
MY BABIES, MY PRECIOUS BABIES. EXCUSE ME WHILE I SMUGLY DECLARE THAT KIRK AND UHURA ARE FRIENDS.
I'm a huge K/U shipper and if you don't already know that I think you're probably new here? But just in the platonic realm, you don't know how many times I have had to throw my hands up at people assuming this relationship was always going to be all bickery and that Uhura without-a-doubt hates Jim (I think even for their academy-era relationship, "hate" is too strong a word). That idea was something I always found irritating because it's like, oh, Kirk and Spock can argue for half of a movie and the audience just knows it will work eventually because they're supposed to be a team, but let's overlook that Uhura and Kirk always had this very trusting sorta huggy dynamic in TOS and reduce Uhura to some demonstration of how clumsy Jim can be with the ladies (not that these writers are not guilty of reducing women to punchlines, but more on that later). Now it's not so much that Kirk either earns total lust or total adversity from every woman he meets with no space in-between but that Uhura is just a difficult woman to impress and it took some time for him to earn her respect.
But just OH MY GOD. ALL THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM WERE MORE THAN I EVER WOULD HAVE HOPED FOR? The talk on the turbolift about Spock and her sensing their mutual frustrations about him; Jim obviously being really worried that one of the Klingons was about to fuck her up when they sent her to talk to them; Nyota having Jim's back during the shoot-out (!!!); OMFG, did she really do that little relieved/comforting lean on Jim's shoulder when they thought Marcus and McCoy were about to get blown up (!!!!!!!!!)? That last bit was pretty much the part where it started to feel surreal how subtly multi-dimensional they had made this relationship because it was almost too good to be true. Like I kinda said I was totally dreading going into this movie and feeling like a lot of interactions I have written in fic between these characters, while having only a few scenes to go on, would be something people would no longer be able to buy, but it's like...I even feel like a few more people (a few, you know, I'm being optimistic here) are going to be able to imagine that just maybe over some time she could have been interested in Kirk romantically if Spock was out of the picture (and especially if she were separated from everyone she's ever known with the exception of him and two other people, not that I'm thinking about a specific fic or anything), and I didn't even ask for that, I hadn't bothered hoping for that. It was Christmas in May.
(photobucket, what did you do to my gifs. That used to be a pretty gif.)
But let's not forget I love all three of these badasses and they did sooo right by my OT3 it almost feels fanon-inspired. I'm still unable to get excited about Spock/Uhura on their own and I don't think I ever will, but I was so happy they didn't just get lazy with that relationship and make it look like it's easy for these two people to be together. The lack of professionalism didn't bother me because let's face it, the writers DGAF and it's their fault if the characters wanna talk about their feelings a little too much while on a mission, or date each other in the first place when that's arguably a bad idea, etc. But I did feel like in the first sequence when Spock's life was in danger that Uhura managed to be entirely professional while crying and freaking out and, IDK, that felt perfect to me. And just...I have so many feelings about how there is a bit of a real tandem to both Spock and Uhura reacting to Jim dying, and how on the bridge the two of them just share this look and when she says, "Go get him," the tone has shifted from "Be careful down there, honey" to more like "HE GOT JIM KILLED. COME BACK WITH YOUR SHIELD OR ON IT." In many ways the three of them were treated as the new triumvirate, and I feel like that should piss me off, but it just doesn't. I would have liked a little more Bones but, you know, I just want more everybody, I want an entire TV show that is like this but alas, it cannot happen.
I ended up liking how they handled Kirk & Spock more upon reflection than I did when I saw it; I think it's because as I was watching it I kinda felt like they weren't quite selling it enough but later on I realized that everything kinda did make perfect sense for a developing relationship where both of them are a little too proud to be very close to referring to each other as besties. I mean, where TOS starts, Kirk is already willing to tell the world that Spock is one of his most trusted friends, but Spock isn't so open about that being mutual, so I realized it was kind of adorable to suggest that a little earlier in such a relationship there could be a point where, hey, Jim isn't eager to pour his heart out about how much he cares about a dude who has no idea how to respond to "Hey, I'm gonna miss you." In TOS Spock is more ashamed of his emotions towards Kirk; here he's more confused about how to handle them, so it's just this pile of awkward that they don't talk about so the pile of friendship just keeps getting bigger and bigger until they do stupid shit for each other and...yeah. It's true that they haven't exactly "earned" their Kirk-and-Spockness enough for the impact of one of them dying to feel like any kind of fitting homage to WoK, but at the same time, these guys have both lost a whole lot, and they've both been told that they're supposed to have this epic friendship that will define them both, and I think for Spock to not only have to give up that relationship but the possibility of what it's supposed to be could seriously give him a case of the agonizing oh-hell-no's, especially as he seems to be realizing in that moment that he wants this brotherhood and depends on it even though he's been suppressing too much to really think hard about it before.
- And speaking of the bros who always do stupid shit for each other: I cannot tell you how much I loved the little fact that Kirk got in some serious trouble at the beginning. It's just that in Star Trek, particularly with Kirk and Spock, it seems like you get a whole LOT of people putting the entire crew on the line to try to save one person, and they almost NEVER GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT. (On that note I didn't see why the prime directive was treated like such a BFD, specifically in that context, because it seemed clear to me that putting the crew in danger was a much bigger fuck-up than, you know, trying to save a planet.) And even though Jim is Jim and is still insisting later in the movie that it was the right thing because it saved Spock's life, the writing puts in both the logos and pathos and doesn't really forcefully resolve which way of looking at it is the right way. And it's all the more well-handled that they don't just have some random admiral who could come off as the bad guy chewing him out but somebody we actually relate to. Oh god...
- You guys, I was so so so excited that they brought Pike back; he was seriously one of my favorite characters in XI (LOL, I mean, who out of the main players hasn't been one of my favorite characters at one point? but I digress). And when it came up as this very paternal thing between him and Jim (Did anyone else notice he sternly called him "James" at some point? Hee) I was pleasantly surprised. To me the continuation of their relationship always felt like it was a great idea but something that I would only ever get in fanfic, and I got behind the idea of it way more when I was writing my last big bang, and then they totally spun it back that way and I was ecstatic and then they FUCKING TORE MY HEART OUT AAAAAAHGGHGHGHGG.
- I still wish they'd acknowledge Winona, though.
- SCOTTY <3 With how a lot of people complained that Scotty was just more Simon Pegg than anything else in the first movie, the fact that they could make him this really funny guy who may not seem like he takes anything besides his ship seriously until he shows that he has this strong core of integrity to what he knows is right and wrong...I adored that, and it did make me feel a little more like he is the character. I loved how his confrontation with Jim ended up just veering abruptly into Jim being like "UGH OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HATE THIS, OF COURSE I ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION, DAMMIT, UGH." Also, I was pretty happy Keenser is still around :) (LOL, apparently they don't think that in America we know that "wee" means "small." That's not exactly super-obscure Scottish slang from where I'm standing, but it was improvised by Pegg and JJ made him add the line explaining what it meant. I'm okay with that because the delivery of it was kind of charming.)
And hey, speaking of that whole part of the plot, like many others I was pleased with how there was this fluid implication of how the destruction of Vulcan has changed a lot of things and made Starfleet more militant. I'm not happy that that's the way it is, but it's great to have characters acknowledging it in the same way the Trekkies do, by saying that's not what Starfleet is supposed to be about.
- Ugh, but did they really have to use Chapel, a significantly recurring character from the original series, to make an unfunny "LOL Kirk's philandering" joke. I found it particularly grating that he would supposedly not even remember her, even if the implication is that she left pretty fast. On the other hand, it creates an amusing accidental continuity with all the fics where Bones seems to have set down some kind of "Jim, please don't screw my medical crew" policy, and now I kind of really want one where the whole thing with Chapel is something Bones has been nursing a grudge over for a while.
- So, Carol Marcus. It's interesting and surprising that they would bring in someone who was canonically involved with Kirk but only vaguely hint at any romantic tension between them (though at the same time, pretty much every kiss gets into the trailers these days, so I shouldn't have been surprised there wasn't one between them). And I don't know, we didn't get to know her all that well, but I feel like I liked her? And I don't mind the idea of her and Jim possibly getting together in a next movie, but I found myself doing it wrong and kinda shipping her with Bones...Tell me I'm not alone in this.
Oh, and on a final positive note, the action/space porn was beautiful. I had kind of forgotten how astonishing the effects were the first time I saw Star Trek XI and that I'd be getting more of that.
Must see again. *nods*
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Date: 2013-05-20 04:37 am (UTC)THIS
"I cannot tell you how much I loved the little fact that Kirk got in some serious trouble at the beginning. It's just that in Star Trek, particularly with Kirk and Spock, it seems like you get a whole LOT of people putting the entire crew on the line to try to save one person, and they almost NEVER GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT."
Also this. And the random name-drop of Chapel irritated me, too. "Hey, look, we watched TOS and remembered characters' names and shit!"
"I found myself doing it wrong and kinda shipping her with Bones..."
You aren't the only one!
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Date: 2013-05-21 06:56 am (UTC)I LOVED IT SO MUCH. sure, it's not perfect, but it was a hell of a ride.