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ninety6tearsSo I finally finished some show seasons that aired forever ago, and here are my thoughts.
I have a weird time with this show. I don't keep up with the fandom at all really, so I don't know if I have the most unpopular opinions about everything or what. I started with the second cast (the first two seasons have been pitched and pitched again to me, don't worry, I just haven't watched them yet) and pretty much kept up with it cause it was funny. And...basically because...I liked Cook. I'm sure tons of people really dislike Cook; I know he started out as practically a Scrappy, but...
Let me back up and say this: Watching Skins makes me feel like maybe I'm just not able to care about relationship drama any more. Even though it's hard to say why it got me practically grinding me teeth over so many things, there were just so many parts where I wanted to grab these characters and yell in their faces, "YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WHO OR WHAT YOU LOVE JUST BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM." It's quite possible that I was more patient with Cook than any of the other guys for only sort of argumentatively pulling out "Yeah, well, I love Effy too, but..." rather than this frankly almost possessive attitude that was sort of a perversely overcomplicated version of the Bros Before Hos mandate. Because it would have been one thing if Effy was actually actively interested in Freddie. As it happened, it's completely irrelevant that she apparently "loved" Freddie back from the start. She was doin' nothin' because she's Effy and needed to freak out over her emotions for a while, which left Freddie practically taking her restrained affection as contract so that if he wasn't allowed to be with her, neither was anyone else, if he could do anything about it. Yeah, I understand that sleeping with somebody your friend really likes has its own nastiness, but I will just honestly put it out there that I...kinda don't care, because Cook loved her too, didn't even necessarily love her last, and I don't believe it for a second that he "stole Freddie's girlfriend" "just because he could." Is it stupid for me to think it seems a lot easier with all of Cook's issues for him to just admit to being a betraying shitbag than it would be for him to say "I'd get hit by a bus for that girl, but she doesn't want me back"?
Can you tell I don't ship Effy/Freddie? I'm not sure I can begin to convince myself that Cook/Effy isn't its own big mess, which is why I was totally down with the ambiguity about what ever happens with Effy come the finale.
What with my obvious disapproval of Fredz, I'm not sure how to transition into talking about the finale. I'm not happy Freddie's dead (that song, LOL), but if anything I'm less worried about Effy now that she seems to be in touch with her friends again and doesn't have a boyfriend who is going to somehow moan about his own insanity and heartbreak when she's in the hospital. Jesus Christ. I'm way more worried about his sister, because that family's been through a lot already. Still, I'm curious to know if anyone else got this feeling throughout the final episode that even though everyone was talking about trying to look for Freddie, that they all kind of knew something was seriously wrong and just couldn't talk about it? Especially with how they kept talking aloud to him and all that. I think I like the episode a lot better that way, cause otherwise there's really no group reaction. It was a very sad episode but not really on the surface, and I always love that stuff. Aaaand, can't really say I had much of a "WOAH, this shit just majorly jumped the shark" kinda reaction and I can't even say why. But I think it's great that if you go back and watch Freddie's S3 episode, there's that part when Naomi is comparing Fredz to Hamlet and basically says "he ends up being so boring somebody has to kill him." Thank you for that, TV Tropes.
Cook is a badass. I love a lot of these characters, I really do, but the kid loves so unconditionally and usually tragically and not in the ways you'd expect, and there's just something about the way he'll very ham-handedly try to take care of other people or, I don't know, compliment Pandora on how she looks in lingerie (on his way out of the window escaping from the law, no less) that makes me just want to cheer him the fuck on even though he can be a total stupid dick. I love it.
What else about the finale? I cracked the hell up at the foul-mouthed trainer who convinced Thomas to get a scholarship. I honestly did not dig on Pandora and Thomas getting back together, maybe partly because I really wanted Thomas and Katie to get it on? Maybe it just felt redundant and unrealistic that both of the couples got back together, but Emily and Naomi's reunion was gloriously adorable. I was feeling very woobyish about Naomi even though she was awkwardly falling apart in front of everybody. I'm actually pretty happy she slapped that girl who was after Emily. Even though we don't know her whole story, she kinda seemed like a bitch. I've gone on way too much about Skins now.
White Collar. Honestly, who is watching this show that isn't mainly invested in the love that is Peter and Neal? I can specifically remember watching the pilot and just dissing the whole opening sequence with "Maximum security prison, my ass," etc. And then, okay. There's the introduction of Peter and he's obviously connected to Caffrey, blah blah, and then you get to the part where the guy admits, "He used my wife's credit card" and Peter has this smirk on his face. And you're like, "Heh heh. Heh."
The Smirk Of Love is pretty much the reason I watch the show. Cause oh God, I love Neal, I in fact especially love Peter, but the one thing I love more than Neal or Peter is the fact that Peter loves Neal. Cause, oh. I love that. That's one of the most adorable things in the universe.
Let me cut to the chase about the finale: Even though it will be a probably very lame case of not-dead-after-all (it's a setup and she wasn't still on the plane, something like that, IDEK) if they actually do this, I seriously don't want Kate to be dead. And here's why: I don't want Kate and Neal to just fizzle off because she dies. I want her to live to prove to him that she's been screwing with him this entire time so that Neal might actually stick it to her. And I'm sure Neal's version of sticking it to her wouldn't be any more severe than, "I love you and I'd die for you, but I'm not doing a damn thing you ask me to do, ever again." Cause, seriously. Guys got issues. I have no doubt that it's gonna take some serious grieving for him to get over her no matter how it goes. He knows deep down he shouldn't trust her and he loves her anyway. Very stupid and very endearing is what that is, but it's time to ahem, commit more to somebody you love more than the idea of, BB. I can't...I can't imagine who that could possibly be.
If you're on my f-list and watch those shows, there's a good chance I stalked some old reaction posts but felt kind of weird replying to them way late. Eheh.
Day 15 - A song that you listen to when you're sad
Day 16 - A song that you want to play at your wedding
Day 17 - A song that you want to play at your funeral
Day 18 - A song that makes you laugh
Day 19 - A song that turns you on
Day 20 - A song you've listened to after a break-up
Day 21 - A song that gives you shivers
Day 22 - A song you can't help but air-jam to
James Newton Howard - "Humanity Goes On Trial. EPIC SADNESS D:
I have a weird time with this show. I don't keep up with the fandom at all really, so I don't know if I have the most unpopular opinions about everything or what. I started with the second cast (the first two seasons have been pitched and pitched again to me, don't worry, I just haven't watched them yet) and pretty much kept up with it cause it was funny. And...basically because...I liked Cook. I'm sure tons of people really dislike Cook; I know he started out as practically a Scrappy, but...
Let me back up and say this: Watching Skins makes me feel like maybe I'm just not able to care about relationship drama any more. Even though it's hard to say why it got me practically grinding me teeth over so many things, there were just so many parts where I wanted to grab these characters and yell in their faces, "YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WHO OR WHAT YOU LOVE JUST BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM." It's quite possible that I was more patient with Cook than any of the other guys for only sort of argumentatively pulling out "Yeah, well, I love Effy too, but..." rather than this frankly almost possessive attitude that was sort of a perversely overcomplicated version of the Bros Before Hos mandate. Because it would have been one thing if Effy was actually actively interested in Freddie. As it happened, it's completely irrelevant that she apparently "loved" Freddie back from the start. She was doin' nothin' because she's Effy and needed to freak out over her emotions for a while, which left Freddie practically taking her restrained affection as contract so that if he wasn't allowed to be with her, neither was anyone else, if he could do anything about it. Yeah, I understand that sleeping with somebody your friend really likes has its own nastiness, but I will just honestly put it out there that I...kinda don't care, because Cook loved her too, didn't even necessarily love her last, and I don't believe it for a second that he "stole Freddie's girlfriend" "just because he could." Is it stupid for me to think it seems a lot easier with all of Cook's issues for him to just admit to being a betraying shitbag than it would be for him to say "I'd get hit by a bus for that girl, but she doesn't want me back"?
Can you tell I don't ship Effy/Freddie? I'm not sure I can begin to convince myself that Cook/Effy isn't its own big mess, which is why I was totally down with the ambiguity about what ever happens with Effy come the finale.
What with my obvious disapproval of Fredz, I'm not sure how to transition into talking about the finale. I'm not happy Freddie's dead (that song, LOL), but if anything I'm less worried about Effy now that she seems to be in touch with her friends again and doesn't have a boyfriend who is going to somehow moan about his own insanity and heartbreak when she's in the hospital. Jesus Christ. I'm way more worried about his sister, because that family's been through a lot already. Still, I'm curious to know if anyone else got this feeling throughout the final episode that even though everyone was talking about trying to look for Freddie, that they all kind of knew something was seriously wrong and just couldn't talk about it? Especially with how they kept talking aloud to him and all that. I think I like the episode a lot better that way, cause otherwise there's really no group reaction. It was a very sad episode but not really on the surface, and I always love that stuff. Aaaand, can't really say I had much of a "WOAH, this shit just majorly jumped the shark" kinda reaction and I can't even say why. But I think it's great that if you go back and watch Freddie's S3 episode, there's that part when Naomi is comparing Fredz to Hamlet and basically says "he ends up being so boring somebody has to kill him." Thank you for that, TV Tropes.
Cook is a badass. I love a lot of these characters, I really do, but the kid loves so unconditionally and usually tragically and not in the ways you'd expect, and there's just something about the way he'll very ham-handedly try to take care of other people or, I don't know, compliment Pandora on how she looks in lingerie (on his way out of the window escaping from the law, no less) that makes me just want to cheer him the fuck on even though he can be a total stupid dick. I love it.
What else about the finale? I cracked the hell up at the foul-mouthed trainer who convinced Thomas to get a scholarship. I honestly did not dig on Pandora and Thomas getting back together, maybe partly because I really wanted Thomas and Katie to get it on? Maybe it just felt redundant and unrealistic that both of the couples got back together, but Emily and Naomi's reunion was gloriously adorable. I was feeling very woobyish about Naomi even though she was awkwardly falling apart in front of everybody. I'm actually pretty happy she slapped that girl who was after Emily. Even though we don't know her whole story, she kinda seemed like a bitch. I've gone on way too much about Skins now.
White Collar. Honestly, who is watching this show that isn't mainly invested in the love that is Peter and Neal? I can specifically remember watching the pilot and just dissing the whole opening sequence with "Maximum security prison, my ass," etc. And then, okay. There's the introduction of Peter and he's obviously connected to Caffrey, blah blah, and then you get to the part where the guy admits, "He used my wife's credit card" and Peter has this smirk on his face. And you're like, "Heh heh. Heh."
The Smirk Of Love is pretty much the reason I watch the show. Cause oh God, I love Neal, I in fact especially love Peter, but the one thing I love more than Neal or Peter is the fact that Peter loves Neal. Cause, oh. I love that. That's one of the most adorable things in the universe.
Let me cut to the chase about the finale: Even though it will be a probably very lame case of not-dead-after-all (it's a setup and she wasn't still on the plane, something like that, IDEK) if they actually do this, I seriously don't want Kate to be dead. And here's why: I don't want Kate and Neal to just fizzle off because she dies. I want her to live to prove to him that she's been screwing with him this entire time so that Neal might actually stick it to her. And I'm sure Neal's version of sticking it to her wouldn't be any more severe than, "I love you and I'd die for you, but I'm not doing a damn thing you ask me to do, ever again." Cause, seriously. Guys got issues. I have no doubt that it's gonna take some serious grieving for him to get over her no matter how it goes. He knows deep down he shouldn't trust her and he loves her anyway. Very stupid and very endearing is what that is, but it's time to ahem, commit more to somebody you love more than the idea of, BB. I can't...I can't imagine who that could possibly be.
If you're on my f-list and watch those shows, there's a good chance I stalked some old reaction posts but felt kind of weird replying to them way late. Eheh.
Day 15 - A song that you listen to when you're sad
Day 16 - A song that you want to play at your wedding
Day 17 - A song that you want to play at your funeral
Day 18 - A song that makes you laugh
Day 19 - A song that turns you on
Day 20 - A song you've listened to after a break-up
Day 21 - A song that gives you shivers
Day 22 - A song you can't help but air-jam to
James Newton Howard - "Humanity Goes On Trial. EPIC SADNESS D:
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Date: 2010-06-13 02:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 07:38 am (UTC)omg. I love that boy too :D he's a gloriously heart-on-sleeve self-destructive figure. (if/when you watch the first seasons, there's a character who'll remind you a lot of Cook. He's my favourite. They're seriously so much alike that I resented Cookie a little at first for seeming to be designed to tug on my heartstrings. irrational!)
Naomi is so my favourite of the second cast it's not even funny, and her scene with Emily will probably KILL ME FOREVER. I secretly love grand romantic gestures where the person simply does not care that they're throwing themselves on the pavement in front of everyone they know, and the way Lily Loveless' voice is shaking and cracking all through the speech is just...<3
I reeeeeeally gotta catch up on White Collar. =/